How long to charge for 30 minutes of flight time?
Considering the taxi has to fly from a depot to pick someone up, then fly to a destination, then back to the depot, I can see this machine as a 1 flight wonder until it recharges. Sounds expensive.

Charge time could be quick, less than 30 minutes.

According to their website max charging time is 120minutes and fast charging is 40 minutes. (of course if it's not completely empty that time can be considerably less)
I can see this machine as a 1 flight wonder until it recharges

Given enough numbers charging time doesn't matter at all. I guess Dubai has the cash for this. With numbers the price will come down (and new battery designs are drop-in replacements)
Sounds expensive.

At 250k it isn't cheap but looking at used helicopters it's vastly cheaper. It's more expensive than a ground based taxi (though the average taxi in Dubai is a big Mercedes, which would put it in the 100k range, so not *that* far off).

In any case, the modes of transport (car/helicopter/volocopter) aren't really comparable because they serve different use cases.

i wonder if Ehang has been kicked out of testing in dubai completely? There was all this news in july that Ehang is going to be their Taxi, then all of a sudden it went quiet and Volocopter made the headlines, and no Ehang anymore. Is that just how business work in dubai, changing their minds on a dime ? The volocopter is nice, but i liked the sleekness of the ehang. To have both operate there would be nice.

What I get from Ehang it isn't there, yet. The last images still look a bit like a mockup (especially the interior)
Also a bit lower on the specs (40kg less carrying capacity, lower range, not mutiply redundant layout like the Volocopter and only one seat. Which means the Ehang is 'autonomy required' while the Volocopter can be piloted. Which might be important for getting air taxi traffic accepted by the public).

Currently the Ehang is being marketed to security, police and military buyers. (Why does the term 'Trouble Bubble' come to mind?)

In order for this project to be fail-safe, Dubai is going to have to do something about the unprecedented levels of EMI in that city. Absolutely off the charts. And the aircraft design will have to be both hardened from EMI, and accessible to necessary signals, since the GPS, compass, communications, telemetry, etc. will all depend upon lack of EMI to operate.

Seriously? EMI?
You are aware that Dubai runs stuff like hospitals - which have ridiculously low EMI requirements.
And yes: GPS does work in Dubai.

Fully charged battery packs, strategically located throughout Dubi, will be needed, for this technology to be successful.

What I get from Ehang it isn't there, yet. The last images still look a bit like a mockup (especially the interior)
Also a bit lower on the specs (40kg less carrying capacity, lower range, not mutiply redundant layout like the Volocopter and only one s.... ...

Currently the Ehang is being marketed to security, police and military buyers. (Why does the term 'Trouble Bubble' come to mind?)


Sigh... what you say make sense yes, i just like the concept of less rotors, it looks better, and in my mind more aerodynamically efficient, the volocopter have this huge round structure atop to support all the rotors, a brilliant concept sure all those rotors are good for redundency, just don't like the bulky structure atop, and don't like all those rotors, again good for redundency sure, 8 rotors however is way sufficient for redundency on a multirotor besides i have never had a motor fail on me they are very reliable, not saying it is not possible, but they are very

In order for this project to be fail-safe, Dubai is going to have to do something about the unprecedented levels of EMI in that city. Absolutely off the charts. And the aircraft design will have to be both hardened from EMI, and accessible to necessary signals, since the GPS, compass, communications, telemetry, etc. will all depend upon lack of EMI to operate.


I read somewhere there is an advanced system (researched by the military ?) That can be used on a drone without using gps (perhaps implement it as primary navigation if it's good enough and gps as redundency ? it uses complex algorithms, calculations to navigate in conjunction with VOR's ? aarghh... where's that article again.

Or was that without VOR's ?

Seriously? EMI?
You are aware that Dubai runs stuff like hospitals - which have ridiculously low EMI requirements.
And yes: GPS does work in Dubai.


Do I look like I'm kidding? Hospitals have the luxury of EMI-hardened architecture and hard-wired communications, without concern for added weight, maneuverability, and wireless communication. Why would you draw such a apples-to-dogdoo parallel? It's one thing to support this emerging technology (as I do), and be willing to risk your life as an early-adopter (are you willing to do it? if so, good for you). All while taking in account fail-over features such as parachutes...

Perhaps volocopter designers also fancy the fact that smaller rotors is less suspectible to wind disturbances, well at least we had a custom hex that we built with huge rotors and found that the big rotors causes the multi to be thrown around in windy conditions more so compared to using a multicopter with smaller rotors. Still like the look of using less rotors, and the sound of those monster blades :D They should improve on the concept and make it just as stable as a multi with more than 8 blades.

Or could it be that bigger rotors causes too much intertia on the motors, causing a lag of response from what the flight controller wants the position of the motor to be in? Well put on stronger motors then i guess and improve the algorithms on the FC... let me stop here :D

i meant esc's not flight controller.

it looks better, and in my mind more aerodynamically efficient,

I don't think aerodynamics play much of a role in any of these designs. Quadcopters can be flying bricks and not lose much in the way of efficiency.

i'm sure deisgner-vehicles will come along to make these 'snazzy' once the tech is approved.

i have never had a motor fail on me they are very reliable,

Yes. What I get from their site is that they have 9 independent battery packs and 16 rotors...which pobably means 2 rotors and one battery are one unit (and one main/safety pack). So it's effectively an octocopter in terms of redundancy. You always want rotors to fail in pairs anyhow because of conservation of angular momentum. (Still means 3 pairs can fail before you have to deploy the emergency parachute...which would make me feel very safe about riding in one.


Having the rotors up top seems like a prudent placement in terms of safety

and be willing to risk your life as an early-adopter (are you willing to do it?

Sure. After the test phase they're doing right now.. The biggest 'danger' I can see in these would be faulty software - not in any of the hardware components. But if you've ever looked at the code required to keep a quadcopter stable it's really ridiculous how littel you need. So I wouldn't be worried about that, either.

Why would you draw such a apples-to-dogdoo parallel?

Because there's such a thing as doing EMI tests (active and passive). We do that stuff here in germany before we release products, you know? It's not like these guys will put this out in the wild without putting any kind of thought into it.