These alarmist articles are precisely why so many scientists continue to doubt the validity of global warming. Picking and choosing a possible reason why we need to immediately scale down CO2 emissions is not good science. The overall picture is missing.

So, a few aircraft with lower temperature tolerances, taking off at certain airports with shorter runways, and probably that are in the middle of a desert, may suffer. Big deal. There are ways to mittigate this terrible suffering.

I believe most of the inconviences we suffer in flying today are due to cold, not heat. Too much ice, snow, etc. That is why airlines operating in the south have better on-time performance ratings.

These alarmist articles are precisely why so many scientists continue to doubt the validity of global warming. Picking and choosing a possible reason why we need to immediately scale down CO2 emissions is not good science. The overall picture is missing.

So, a few aircraft with lower temperature tolerances, taking off at certain airports with shorter runways, and probably that are in the middle of a desert, may suffer. Big deal. There are ways to mittigate this terrible suffering.

I believe most of the inconviences we suffer in flying today are due to cold, not heat. Too much ice, snow, etc. That is why airlines operating in the south have better on-time performance ratings.

These denial postings are exactly why Climate Change Deniers are considered to be fecal regurgitators.

More complete and utter bullshit from the AGW Cult

No Bart, increasing problems like this are a consequence of burning fossil fuels and as a result, changing the atmosphere. BTW, last time I checked, LaGuardia is not in the middle of a desert.

Did anyone else get a bad image at "remove cargo, fuel or PASSENGERS"? "No, we're not overbooked sir, just overheated - now Get Off before I call our goon squad."

I wonder if it is possible to somewhat mitigate the problem with a system of water misters/sprayers along the runway? Wonder how much water it would take to make a meaningful difference (if making a difference is possible at all?)

These alarmist articles are precisely why so many scientists continue to doubt the validity of global warming.

I'm pretty much 100% sure that you don't have any contact with scientists.

Also, I don't read this article as alarmist. They are just pointing out some interesting side effects.

Aircraft are already finding air doesn't support them. Chemtrails, spraying a variant of water that seems to have a high thermal inertia have caused patches of air around the world not to be able to support aircraft. Commercial airlines delay or cancel flights or "divert" around patches of denatured atmosphere. They use "incidents" from turtles crossing the airfield to an executive arguing because they're served nuts in a bag to a man running around in a Zorro costume to fights with staff over storing a birthday cake to create "delays" or "cancellations" and things like fights over leg room or a man trying to assemble a device involving circuitry on the cabin floor or a man naming his wifi hotspot after the Samsung Galaxy 7 to "justify" "diverting" to a different destination. The connection to global warming is there, though, since it's chemtrails, not "fossil fuels" that are causing climate change.

@Bart_A.

So, a few aircraft with lower temperature tolerances, taking off at certain airports with shorter runways, and probably that are in the middle of a desert, may suffer. Big deal.

I believe most of the inconviences we suffer in flying today are due to cold, not heat. Too much ice, snow, etc.

Are you not aware of the increasing occurrences of continent-scale 'heat dome' atmospheric phenomenon? These affect huge swathes of countries/airports at a time. The point is that this phenomena will become so prevalent as the planet becomes much hotter that it will be 'the new norm'.

As for 'cold problems' you allude to, they are far outweighed by 'heat problems' in form of insect/disease/pollution/extreme/extensive-storms etc which will become year-round menaces to health, transportation, agriculture, infrastructure etc, all of which developed 'factoring in' the 'current climate' patterns/costs/impacts.

Consider the wider/longer picture.

Rethink it all, Bart_A. :)

Bart_A:

These alarmist articles are precisely why so many scientists continue to doubt the validity of global warming.

You lying trolls don't have "so many scientists". The few climate scientists out of thousands who accept global warming as a simple fact are almost all paid to "doubt" - possibly all of them. There might be a few outliers who just don't believe, because among humans there's one in every crowd.

This article isn't picking and choosing why we should decrease CO2. It merely reports a single effect of global warming. That you in fact agree is real in your post. You trolls are terrible at everything including lying.

julianpenrod:

Chemtrails, spraying a variant of water that seems to have a high thermal inertia have caused patches of air around the world not to be able to support aircraft. [...] They use "incidents" from turtles crossing the airfield

You're a clinically deranged paranoid.

Airplane companies will simply end up building airplanes with wider wings to compensate for the lift loss. The trick will be to get the airlines to accept a set normal loading limit for when the airplane is not in a hot area because the plane will lift more than it's really designed to lift then.

If the climate denier goon squad had half a brain cell, they might figure out that 1+1=2 and climate warming is deep doo doo for the planet. As one of the earlier poster said, since 1980 the globe has gotten 1C warmer (1.8F). The usual hot spots are feeling it worst like Phoenix. Folks, what is more bothersome is the fact that this CO2 heating lasts for 1000s of years. Once you go 4-5C there is no going back. Once a 1C change always 1C, once 2C always 2C, once 3C always 3C, once 4C akway 4C etc etc. Your have hear of the new normal, well there will be a lot of them as we progress to 2100.

Jet engine efficiency would also fall (less dense air to push/pull against) so do you denier see the problem here?

Airplane companies will simply end up building airplanes with wider wings to compensate for the lift loss

....

because the plane will lift more than it's really designed to lift then

erm ...

WTF?

These denial postings are exactly why Climate Change Deniers are considered to be fecal regurgitators

Im sorry I just can't understand why a comment including the phrase 'fecal regurgitator' is worth nine 5/5s.

Hopefully it means there are only nine turds in the entire world who think it's clever but I'm probably being overly optimistic.

wonder if it is possible to somewhat mitigate the problem with a system of water misters/sprayers along the runway?

No, if it's an enduring problem then over time aircraft design and operation will change to accommodate it. Wings a few inches longer, engines a little more efficient, planes a little lighter, etc.

It's very simple Stumpy. If plane companies make the wings wider (i didn't say longer but wider) to give more lift when it's hot and the air is thinner the plane will be technically able to carry more than it's designed for when the weather is cooler and the air is denser whether or not the frame has been upgraded to handle the possible extra weight. Some people will try to overload the plane then in order to make more money. It's human nature - people are basically greedy and companies with stockholders even more so. It's simple common sense that keeping companies from doing that will be hard to do. Do you understand now?

These denial postings are exactly why Climate Change Deniers are considered to be fecal regurgitators

Im sorry I just can't understand why a comment including the phrase 'fecal regurgitator' is worth nine 5/5s.

Hopefully it means there are only nine turds in the entire world who think it's clever but I'm probably being overly optimistic.

@Otto... man.. I don't condone the words but I do condone the outrage. The deniers and right-wing nut jobs have done everything to obstruct real debate on climate warming. After years of this rightwing hatchet job on climate science, a little push back from scientists seems fair.

First of all, there is no global warming. You lefties have been brainwashed. Explain why Greenland hit a new record low temperature for July and why it is a little cooler elsewhere this summer despite being a little warmer in other places.

Second of all, if vehicles we send into space can be engineered to reenter without burning up, engineers can certainly figure out how to make aircraft compensate for temperatures of 125 F. We did figure out how to make Blackhawk engines tolerate sand clogging much better in Iraq. I inspected some of those revised jet engine parts.

It's very simple Stumpy. If plane companies make the wings wider (i didn't say longer but wider)...

@24
it was hilarious because:

if the company[ies] make the wings wider (i never said longer), it is then being redesigned

when something is redesigned in aircraft, there must be new engineering specifications and tests to be documented for contracts to insure the changed specs for QC/manufacture

this is then designed and you will issue additional blueprints/mylar for updated contracts (or a change order)

therefore it is, by design, able to carry [x] weight due to design and intent

.

so when you made the statement "because the plane will lift more than it's really designed to lift" it's nonsensical

it was quite funny, though, and it made me laugh

i only inquired because i thought you might actually be going for humour, but i see it's really just a faux pas due to ignorance of the topic

there is no global warming.

@freefromthought
the difference between stupidity and ignorance
ignorance is not knowing, but stupidity ignores easily found facts for the sake of ...??? what, exactly?
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Explain why Greenland hit a new record low temperature

there is a difference between weather and climate
there is a huge difference between local weather and a global average temperature, which you just proved you don't know jack sh*t about and apparently can't comprehend even when repeatedly shown

despite being a little warmer in other places

you mean globally is just a few other places?
what kind of special stupid does one have to be to ignore the whole f*cking globe temperature rise average because the local weather in greenland was cool one year?

(and because you keep ignoring it, i will repeat: Francis et all was validated, you moron, or don't you know what that means in scientific circles?)

Great Caesar's Ghost, there is no surging heat.

Research Team Slams Global Warming Data In New Report: "Not Reality... Totally Inconsistent With Credible Temperature Data"

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