This will make dr mills suncell totally self-sufficient and with unlimited range as it only needs water to operate.

What happens to the heat entrained in the water vapor? This invention potentially may be more threat to the climate than fossil fuels.

What happens to the heat entrained in the water vapor? This invention potentially may be more threat to the climate than fossil fuels.

Erm ...whut?

1) You have no clue how fossil fuels affect the climate so why do you post?
2) see 1)

(Note that water vapor is also a - albeit much less critical - greenhouse gas. So taking it from the atmosphere can only help with this particular issue)

Erm ...whut?
Water vapor carries the heat that caused the evaporation of water. Condensation releases that heat.

Water vapor is a greenhouse gas because it reflects infrared light. Note that a lot of the energy of the light that reaches the Earth's surface (visible and UV) is emitted back as infrared. Water vapor (much like CO2) acts like a blanket by keeping this heat trapped. This is FAR more critical in upping the Earth's energy balance than conversion of water vapor to water (which, in any case, is transformed back into water vapor when you sweat/breathe it out)

The suncell is a hoax. Ever notice how it's been "six months from sale" for a decade?
So... hot fusion is a hoax as well? The cure for cancer is also a hoax? Peace in our time is similarly a hoax? Was the hubble a hoax because it took longer than it was supposed to?

Is anything which takes longer than initially projected a hoax to you simply because you cant hold your water?

I dont think thats a very good indicator of what is a hoax and what is not. How about you?

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This type device has substantial unintended consequences, too bad it doesn't generate contraception at the same time.

Seems like it might also have applications for keeping interior spaces at specific humidity levels. I could really use a device for this for spaces between the size of picnic coolers and small closets.

We'll have to wait for them to get back to us on what cost scale up to realistic levels of household water supply will cost.

For a typical single family home in the developed world, one would expect it will be a while...

SAUDI ARABIA, DUBAI etc., NEED IT RIGHT AWAY !


Nothing is going to fix the problems in the Persian Gulf. Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar and U.A.E. are desalination dependent to the point salt levels in the PG are up 25% in a couple decades. The presence of fossil fuels permitted growth of a population far beyond regional carrying capacity and they've now hit a hard local limit with fresh water. What is happening in Yemen right now is going to happen to the whole Gulf eventually, and it will be beyond ugly.

What a great product for camping or survival!

This device violates the conservation of energy
-So youre saying that catalysts violate the conservation of energy?

The suncell is a hoax. Ever notice how it's been "six months from sale" for a decade?


He's been trotting this scam around for the best part of 2 decades! It's utter lunacy. It relies on hydrogen having quantum states below the ground state!!! Nobody has ever seen this, and it violates everything we know about physics. It will never go anywhere, and has been trashed in the scientific literature.
The reason he is always just a little while from having a commercial product is so that he can keep the investors stumping up the money.
You can see some of the criticism documented here: http://everything...t_Power/
There is a long running thread at ISF, here: http://www.intern...t=315572

Hey dave
The reason he is always just a little while from having a commercial product is so that he can keep the investors stumping up the money
No he is much closer this time.
You can see some of the criticism documented here: http://everything...t_Power/
Youve posted this site before and youve been told that the latest info is almost 10 years old. Is that how old your opinion is?
There is a long running thread at ISF, here: http://www.intern...t=315572
The latest info on this site is 6 years old. I tried accessing earlier pages and got this:

"Reason: service unavailable helper='Webblocker server is not available' details='Porn Blocker and Security'"

-You do understand what the term 'credible source' means?

Why dont you stop posting the same old obsolete shit and research some new criticisms? Theyre readily available you know.

This device violates the conservation of energy.
No, it doesn't. It releases the heat energy into the atmosphere.

@p511859
Looks like we have some good Thunderf00t material here.
i sent him a copy of the study
this seems slightly different with different materials but i doubt the whole "liters a day" or whole house water needs claim without a sizable piece of equipment
from the study
Therefore, to predict the prototype water harvesting potential under equilibrium conditions, we extended the desorption time for the simulation, results of which match the prediction from the isotherm (~0.3 L kg–1, shown in the upper abscissa of Fig. 4C). In order to fully utilize the steep step of water uptake in the MOF-801 isotherm, a temperature difference of ~45°C between the condenser and the layer is necessary to achieve desorption at 10% RH

Additionally, the articles note of a person needing a coke can of water a day - strains credulity under most cases.
@dug
i am with you on that, but i think they meant this strictly for a survival under extreme conditions example
i still disagree with it as you would require a mite more in desert heat conditions - but if you could keep yourself out of the direct sunlight and cool, i think this could work
There are some very efficient solar stills designs around now
absolutely

i think something like the Desolenator would be a better investment of time and energy considering ... but that is because most people have at least a brackish supply of water
I recently read about a French design
if you can find a link, i would appreciate it
thanks

Using any thing like LiCl, or others, which absorbs water vapor even in very dry air and cycling to release water by heating in the sun, even slightly concentrated, and condensing water in the cold of the night, quite cold in arid country, kept in a heavy mass of earth protected from the sun of the day, you make liquid water, with an efficiency useful..
You cool in the night the ground with the infrared send to the arid sky and you absorb the few air water vapor in LiCl and in the day the sun heat this LiCl to extract water vapor which is condensed in the cold ground protected from sun of the day.
This works and is not a scam to obtain water using basic physical laws using sun heat, around 100W/daym2 maximum, over day and night. with the efficiency of a typical simple heat sun collector.

Any system of this kind, using anything absorbing water ( Licl or other salt or metal organic framework, zeolite, .... ) need a hot source with sun and a cold source which can be obtained in the night which cools strongly in arid contries sending infrared light to the open sky.
Thus carefuly made this is not a scam, using the cool of the night, kept from night to day, in some isolated mass of earth ( several cubic meters ) as well the heat of the sun of the day kept in another isolated mass of earth.

About 3 liters per day, maybe a little more in summer, is not a lot of water for most westerners.
"There is a lot of potential for scaling up the amount of water that is being harvested... ...Wang continues to improve the harvesting system to produce more water."

It all depends on what you read into the article.