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Hi Chris_Reeve. :)

Mate, you've seen ample evidence of my impartiality/objectivity when it comes to observations/commentary, regardless of the discipline/science involved. Yes? So, re your post:

Given their emerging concern about severe pollution problems, China is well positioned to receive the climate change media virus. Perhaps it can become the go-to destination for U.S. climate scientists seeking a new safe space.

I trust you will therefore understand why I cannot allow your above ill-informed and/or obviously politically/personally biased/motivated comment to stand unchallenged by the Reality evolving around us globally.

Egs:-

1) In Moree (Northern NSW, OZ) they have had 51 consecutive days of above-35 C temps; the previous record was a measly 17-19 consecutive day of such temps!

2) At least one of our beaches reached SAND TEMPS of 75 C; yes, that is C, not F, mate! Conservationists had to intervene to move/shade Turtle nests/eggs!

Reality NOW, mate. :)

Re the China weather topic/article, it should also include the effects of China's frequent/widespread use of "Cloud Seeding" to 1) make systems drop rain in preferred areas/times and 2) reduce the moisture load of dangerous systems before they 'break' later over sensitive/vulnerable agricultural/infrastructure locations etc.

Cloud seeding and moisture load reduction etc must affect the otherwise natural evolution of storm systems to their previous less frequent but more extreme dynamics/events.

Anyhow, all such studies should be careful to include ALL factors and not just the factors most easily quantified/available due to weather data which may not take into account the effects of seeding and other changing dynamics data not easily gathered' for the study.

Good luck to us all. :)

China is well positioned to receive the climate change media virus.

The President of the global superpower insists China started this.

Sorry socialist greenloons. China won't be doling out billions for your worldwide wealth re-distribution scheme.

What about for the last 10,000 years, 60 years of data, there is not enough data points to make any predictions?

The weather changes over time.

So does climate.

Human caused climate change is a singular fraud upon mankind.

"The polar bears will be fine" - Freeman Dyson

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Hi Anonym. :)

@RealityCheck: You call 35C hot??? (Just kidding, but you must be quite young.) Heat waves happen, man. That's the reality. In my neck of the woods, we had a record-breaking summer with 43 straight days over 100F (38C) and for the whole summer, 69 days over 100F. I'll never forget that summer because I worked in an un-airconditioned commercial kitchen. :-(

That was the summer of 1980, the place was north Texas, and the CO2 concentration was 280ppm. A few years before, the professional catastrophist James Hansen had warned that global cooling was going to end civilization by the year 2000. LOL.

By the way, that record still stands.

Plus ca change, baby!

But it's the SUDDEN/EXTREME CHANGEs in 'norms' in ANY place; in my example a place where most consecutive days over 35C WAS 17-19, but NOW 51 consecutive days!

Such TRENDING extreme CHANGES create havoc/costs to health, infrastructure, agriculture etc.

PS: I am 67; not young as you imagined. :)

Hi Chris_Reeve. :)

Didn't you understand my earlier explanation elsewhere regarding Venus situation and atmosphere preventing escape of internal heat coming up to surface/atmos? Even if solar radiation is totally blocked at high altitudes, the build-up over billions of years of heat from internal source would produce what we observe now. Again, it's the atmospheric thickness/constituents etc properties which ultimately determines a NET resultant temp/effect regardless where the heat came from. In the case of Venus, the heat cannot escape to space as readily as on our planet, so the the part of the 'greenhouse effect' that most applies is the trapping/internal reflection of heat/radiation from 'below'; which creates the observed situation despite little sunlight reaching down into lower atmospheric layers.

Please try to discern the relevant factors/effects and try to avoid simplistic overviews which miss the crucial aspects which explain the actual situation. Thanks. :)

Hi Shootist.:)

The weather changes over time.

So does climate.

Human caused climate change is a singular fraud upon mankind.

It's RATE OF CHANGE that is so damaging/costly for existing humanity and current infrastructure/agriculture/economies/health etc. How long before you 'get' that very important subtlety, mate? Your simplistic sloganeering ignores all of the actual reality involved, and just panders to the naive and simple 'minds' which politicians and religionist 'exploit' to their own self-interested advantage, at great costs to humanity as a whole, well into future generations.

"The polar bears will be fine" - Freeman Dyson

Dyson admitted otherwise since his early ignorant remarks. We now know that as sea-ice sheets/packs melt, the most crucial 'hunting' areas/prey (seals/dolphins at 'breathing holes') are no longer available/easy. They will therefore be constrained to poorer/less-dependable prey/areas on land, competing with grizzlies etc.

Get now? :)

The weather changes over time.

So does climate.

Not at the speed it has been changing since the industrial revolution. Change is not the issue. It's the SPEED at which it's happening. To a slow crawl over many thousands of years we (and other life) could adapt. Change at the rate that is occuring now is a threat to our ability to sustain ourselves at the level we're at.

Sorry socialist greenloons. China won't be doling out billions for your worldwide wealth re-distribution scheme.

China installed more solar than any other country last year. They have massive smog problems in their cities and are starting to see that if they have to continue shutting down factiries that means their economy will suffer.