Aha...so this "study" was written to detract from the views of global warming "deniers".
" ...and an inconsistent pattern of warming often seized on by climate deniers."
It is an inconsistent pattern simply because the Earth is a dynamo of CHANGE, healing herself and making accommodations for whatever has to be made right.
EARTH DOES NOT ADAPT - SHE CORRECTS. She has always done so - past, present and future.
AGWites still don't understand this concept - that humans and animals depend on all that CO2 that is eventually absorbed by plants that produce O2. The more plants there are, the more O2 is produced. If the WHOLE EARTH was one big forest, all of the atmospheric CO2 would be locked in that forest, and the forest would eventually die when there is no more CO2 for it to absorb/feed on.
I predicted a long time ago that the ocean like the air could have "weather."
But the culprit had been wrongly identified as churning, frigid seas mixing extra heat downward.
The only way that seawater of that 'nature' could be locked up tight such as described, would . How did they differentiate that particular seawater from normal seawater? Did it have a sign in it saying that it is "centuries-old" virgin water?
Actually, AGW is small compared to the evolution fantasy that many people have subscribed to.
Major says:- BartVNever in the history of man has so much been written by those that express their opinion as fact.
Actually, AGW is small compared to the evolution fantasy that many people have subscribed to.
Major says:Never in the history of man has so much been written by those that express their opinion as fact.
Actually, AGW is small compared to the evolution fantasy that many people have subscribed to.
Where did I say that the Earth IS one big forest, asshole? You need a new eyeglass prescription, apparently, or are you just seeing what you want to see?
No, not equilibrium....I said CORRECT...READ IT RIGHT THIS TIME.
"Observations and climate models show that the unique currents around Antarctica continually pull deep, centuries-old water up to the surface - seawater that last touched Earth's atmosphere before the machine age, and has never experienced fossil fuel-related climate change."
The only way that seawater of that 'nature' could be locked up tight such as described, would be in the form of ice or slurry, or is anaerobic in a solution of molecules that prevent that seawater from rising and mixing naturally.
I'm brilliant because this never occurred to global warming scientists who assumed the ocean was static.
Well, "brilliant" might be a stretch but above average wouldn't be :)
Yeah. Well done.
The laws of physics are no more miscible than scientific illiteracy and commenting on a science forum..
Facts on the ground are starting to speak...
"The old idea was that heat taken up at the surface would just mix downward"
Sure. because all physicists know before birth that heat goes down.
Facts on the ground are starting to speak...
Yet, the Chicken Littles, in their willful ignorance, refuse to listen to the truth, preferring the lies that sustain their doom and gloom.
Imagine, 66 peer reviewed (debunked) explanations for the pause and when they ran out of excuses, they cooked up one claiming the pause did not exist. http://hockeyscht...-26.html
This paper directly debunks the dozens before it that claimed man made CO2 was responsible for melting the Antarctic. Yet, the fact on the ground, is that continent sits atop very active geothermal activity, as is Greenland.
Apparently blog posts are "papers" now.
The paper is published May 30 in Nature Geoscience.
a scientific conundrum, and an inconsistent pattern of warming
Yet, the Chicken Littles, in their willful ignorance, refuse to listen to the truth, preferring the lies that sustain their doom and gloom.
Imagine, 66 peer reviewed (debunked) explanations for the pause and when they ran out of excuses, they cooked up one claiming the pause did not exist.
If anthropogenic climate change were shown to be false, I would be the first one to throw a party. By the baleful laments of climate scientists actually studying this stuff, my guess is that they would all join me...
The pause hypothesis is DEAD. The last nail in its coffin was the paper by Karl et. al.
Dr. Phil Jones ā CRU emails ā 7th May, 2009
'Bottom line: the 'no upward trend' has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.'
66 peer reviewed explanations..
Why trust the peer review process for these 66 papers, but dismiss it for everything else?
"..... we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!" Phil Jones, AGW Cult High Priest
Yep, why trust peer review.
So, let me get this straight. You trust 66 papers confirming your bias because they are peer reviewed, but you don't trust the other 19000+ because they are peer reviewed.
Your life must be delightfully uncomplicated.
...hey...hey.. standup and pull your pants back on.
What you so, in your willful ignorance, fail to realize, is that it's the same "scientists" who peer reviewed the 19000+ and the 66.
I once coauthored a paper, and simply for doing that, received invitations to review other papers in that field.
Also, that's just a bad argument. I can't believe I need to explain this to you.
What is 66/19000? 0.3%?
If Man is responsible for climate change, do we get credit for stopping hurricanes making landfall in Florida for the past 3000 days? (All during dire forecasts) Climate Change is great!
Regional Patterns of warming??? So how does one know what the Earth's temp is? Taking an average? Average of what? Which weather stations does one choose? At what time of day? How does one establish a baseline from so many separate stations? How many YEARS of data are required by Mathematics to establish a surface temperature baseline? Which one of you determines the "correct" temperature anyway?
It certainly explains the failure of peer review.
It's 66/19066.
He is a moron. Nothing can be done.
It's a bit like trying to look superior debating an literature scholar by nitpicking grammatical errors.
It's like the balance between smart and stupid has been shattered and must be restored.
It's no wonder you couldn't get that it's not about peer review but the fact that 66 out of 66 attempts to explain away the global warming pause got it wrong.
He is a moron. Nothing can be done.
Actually, people like him factor largely into why I simply don't comment as much here, anymore
No, all that demonstrates is that 66 people had a hypothesis, offered plausible enough reasons for it to be published in a journal, and then had it disproven later on by the peer review process.
You really don't understand how peer review works.
Actually, people like him factor largely into why I simply don't comment as much here, anymore
He is a moron. Nothing can be done.
You're right. Actually, people like him factor largely into why I simply don't comment as much here, anymore, especially when I am immersed in much more interesting research. Every so often, though, he/she just says something so stupid/ignorant, I feel compelled to say something.
It's like the balance between smart and stupid has been shattered and must be restored.
He is a moron. Nothing can be done.
Actually, people like him factor largely into why I simply don't comment as much here, anymore
I have noticed a dearth of comments on a range of very interesting articles on this topic and was wondering if that was the reason. The mods refuse to shut down off topic and irrelevant comments I guess because they like the 'controversy'. But I think it's affecting their readership.
It must have been over 6 months ago when you left to try and prove your claim that the warming oceans were absorbing more CO2.
I did not realize it at the time, but the analysis I was planning on doing was a little more involved than I realized, especially in view of the fact that my life has been very, very, busy....
Also, let's be honest. Should I perform the analysis, you'll simply tell me to grow a brain or something equally puerile. What would be the point?
I just read about deep hole drilling where the depth reached to about 40,000 feet. It was reported that the drilling had to stop because the temperature exceeded 500 degrees F... What I cannot understand is how the rock formation at the depth the same depthThe reason is because rock is a very good insulator of heat, and sea water is not.
I have noticed a dearth of comments on a range of very interesting articles on this topic and was wondering if that was the reason. The mods refuse to shut down off topic and irrelevant comments I guess because they like the 'controversy'. But I think it's affecting their readership.@leetennant
- CalibanWhere did I say that the Earth IS one big forest, asshole?
No, not equilibrium....I said CORRECT...READ IT RIGHT THIS TIME.
ottosocks,
The Earth is passive, and doesn't "correct" anything. The various conditions arising from its formation and instantaneous position in space, relative to the other nearby bodies ...only factors contributing to its energy budget.
(..)The ongoing state of the Earth is no more than the sum of those forces seeking EQUILIBRIUM
- CaptainStumpyI have noticed a dearth of comments on a range of very interesting articles on this topic and was wondering if that was the reason. The mods refuse to shut down off topic and irrelevant comments I guess because they like the 'controversy'.@leetennant
there are no mods
when one poster can be deleted for making one stupid angry comment saying what I think everyone else thinks anyway while the blatant trolls can continually promote and state anything they want... often times better than the angry comment, ranging from sexist and racist to homophobicbicbic and blatant imaginary solicitation of sex
well...
that means, by definition, PO is supporting, by definition, and pandering, by definition, to the trolls / pseudoscience crowd now, by definition, right?
i pray that i'll get at least temp banned for this, but given the evidence, by definition, how can anyone state it's false?
especially considering i've shared an option to fix the plumbing
jonnyrox 1.9 /5 (14) May 31, 2016
just more alarmist BS, give it another ten years and they will all be looking for new careers
LOL
Me too.
http://imgur.com/M0XV9AZ
I told you I was going to analyze data, then get back to you with the results. I would not have "left to prove the warming oceans were absorbing more CO2". That would have been crazy.
I did not realize it at the time, but the analysis I was planning on doing was a little more involved than I realized, especially in view of .....lie...lie..lie
- the furlongLOL
Me too.
http://imgur.com/M0XV9AZ
So...have you figured out when this exchange you mentioned was, yet, or are you talking out of your ass as usual?
jonnyrox 1.9 /5 (14) May 31, 2016
just more alarmist BS, give it another ten years and they will all be looking for new careers
Who knows what they'll be doing, but I'll still be squatting over my mother in her basement.
Again, you are wrong. The Earth is NOT passive. She seeks to correct anything that is out of place. As I said before: "It is an inconsistent pattern simply because the Earth is a dynamo of CHANGE, healing herself and making accommodations for whatever has to be made right."
The Earth can never attain equilibrium as long as she is in flux with constant movement and motion and upheaval. As long as there are fissures, chasms, and rifts or faults, the Earth will always seek to CORRECT that geology.
antigoracle
May 30, 2016Can the Chicken Littles say "Medieval Warm Period".
Slowly but surely the biggest fraud ever committed against humanity is being revealed. AGWism, the "settled science" of unsettling lies.