Has the Nemesis theory been *definitely* ruled out? I rather liked it. If it was a mysterious 'planet X' wouldn't the extinctions be more regular, as far as I know there's a leeway of a couple of million years.
The article suggests the *plane* of the orbit shifts over that long time, not that the orbital period is so long. Implication is migrating orbit progressively perturbs Kuiper Belt objects. I'd expect that only objects disturbed while that plane is near the ecliptic have a significant probability of being dangerous to the inner solar system...
I see no reason why the eccentricity of the orbit would need to fluctuate. It should be enough if the perigee is close enough to perturb the Oort Cloud, while the apogee isn't, thus giving an orbital period of 27 million years rather than 54. Or am I missing something?
@zephirThis is a worthless, discredited theory and a favorite hobby horse of the nut fringe.Well, in similar way, like the cold fusion or antigravity drives and another certified taboos of mainstream science.... How this theory was actually discredited in other way, than by collective downvotes at public forums?
And it is responsible for relatively recent impact events like Noah's Great Flood about 3195 BC and the Atlantis Castrophe 11,703 years before 2000 AD. We use the weather changes caused by these catastrophes to verifyVulcan's orbital parameters@yaridanjo
Forbes orbital parameters to Vulcan's that is@yaridanjo
There is lots of evidence@yaridanjo
Thank you for typing slowly. My iPad battery is lowthat's ok, my computer is so old it types in pencil
Noah's flood was localthen prove it with evidence and not claims
Planet nine's orbital parametersare irrelevant to the point i was making
So where do I find peers?start with the two last links i posted above, then try entering an education program like the following: http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm
Are you implying that astronomers are my peers?absolutely not
What have our astronomers done right?@yari
What have our astronomers done right?Saw stars?
So the orbital points of CR105 are pseudo science? So tree ring and ice core data are pseudoscience? Forbes comet aphelions are pseudo science@yari
http://www.barry....ssel.coma dot-com site is not a reputable peer reviewed journal nor is it a study
So if you think I am wrong, prove it!a claim only needs another claim to be refuted
All you are going to get is a dot.com site out of me@yari
I pointed you to an answer aboutno, you pointed me to your opinion
In my past line of work, we have a sayingyeah, we have a few too
Nibiru is a comet swarm or cluster, not a planet@yari
This is classical celestial mechanics, check it out for yourselvesclassical celestial mechanics applied to a delusion doesn't mean it is real any more than standing in a garage makes you a Maserati
So much for your peer reviewed papers on non dot.com sitesWTF?
Nibiru is a comet swarm or cluster, not a planet...
With mentions of Nemesis, Vulcan, and Nibiru, I don't understand why no one has brought up Velikovsky. Let the flame wars begin! ;^) (I did find both Worlds in Collision and Earth in Upheaval fascinating reads).- tear88
I see a reference to events every 27 million years, but when was the last one. Was it 27 million years ago? Are we going to get slammed with a comet storm next Tuesday?
Captain Stumpy, I am sorry to challenge your faith based belief in the peer review process that does not work@yari
Captain Stumpy: it appears to me that all you can do is denigrate others@yari
and you apparently have no access to factual datayou mean, except for all those links i left which are factual evidence that demonstrate how science works and why our religious preoselytizing isn't welcome as a scientific argument??
I am challenging your faith based reliance on the so called peer review processif you could challenge the peer review process, you would have already redefined the education system today
You may want to consider thinking for yourself and not just following the preaching of your religionChica... i was going to tell you the same thing
Captain Stumpy: there are others making intelligent comments that are worth responding to@yari
as this is a science site,
it behooves those who think critically and have logic to request evidence for the claims
this is how things work in real life unless you have a religion
allowing you to post pseudoscience without pointing out that you have no evidence
and can't substantiate your claim would mean you may have a valid point, which you don't
because you are posting *religion* on a science site
that is how evidence based peer reviewed science works
Resolved: physorg doesn't just subborn nut cases, This is a worthless, discredited theory and a favorite hobby horse of the nut fringe.
It would behoove you to call in a REAL scientist1- Rule 37
Who are you to allow OR deny what can or can't be posted?i see your reading and comprehension skills haven't improved, b/c you missed a whole lot of that post & cherry picked
AND the first religionsscience is completely different from religion and this is proven by all the wonderful things science gave us while under the thumb of religion... as opposed to what it gave us recently when religion was taken out of the picture as the ruling force
But you & Schneib don't think that makes you@benji
neither of you carry the demeanor science professionalswell, idiot bot - i am not a science professional nor have i ever claimed to be one
there isn't a single real educated person on this site who hasn't felt the same desire to pummel the blatantly obvious liar like yourself
well, idiot bot - i am not a science professional nor have i ever claimed to be one
By your own admission of not being an "educated" science professional@banji
by what rationale do you justify your presence on any science site?by my love of science and my need to follow the evidence
Facts on orbital stability in the outer solar system from passing stars please!"... it is predicted that ~12 stars pass within 1 pc of the Sun every Myr". Earlier work suggests flybys within 0.25 pc happen even less frequently: ~ 0.1/Myr. See The Closest Known Flyby of a Star to the Solar System
Just FYI Lenni, I never take you off ignore so I can't vote you up or down. I occasionally respond to your insane rants out of boredom or to attack particularly pernicious pieces of your paranoid reasoning, but I don't vote your posts up or down; I can't. Idiot.
Ummm, the extinction of the dinosaurs wasn't a "shower of comets." It was *one* comet, if it was a comet and not a carbonaceous chondrite, which landed in the Gulf of Mexico northwest of the Yucatan.
Let's try to keep the speculation to a minimum, particularly when we have a well-accepted explanation supported by data from multiple scientific fields, shall we? Thanks in advance.
Becasue the result of such calculatuions are near to the rеality, the golden calf shamans need several mass extinsion with unbiblical nature. And here the fairy tales begins.viko_mx – your "religion" is ~ 6000 year old Egyptian astrology that your ancestors hijacked to suit their own purposes. You could do your own research to learn this, or you can watch this 1/2-hour clip that exposes it (Zeitgeist – Religion) and then do your own fact-checking. The original astrology is historically and culturally fascinating – your version is like a bastardized, mangled 3rd-rate copy of it. Please get your facts and story straight, because lying to yourself in public on a science site makes you look quite foolish and maladjusted in the eyes of all who know better. If you truly seek an omnipotent god, you should seek harder, elsewhere, and stop proselytizing for a lesser mythical god.
This article is usula applied shamanism product of the occult bratherhood. Mass extinction happened because of the flood as recorded in the BibleYou forgot the 's' at the end of 'mass extinction'.
But this fact is not politicaly correct in interset of golden calf idolatry-which cannot be compared to golden chair idolatry.
Why are you here? Who are you? Why are you so nasty and offensive? … hiding behind a pseudonym?Sounds like you're upset that you can't use ad hominem. If you can't refute the content, and you can't attack the person, is your "Plan C" really to usurp someone's first amendment rights? In all your experience, how many fires have you extinguished by pouring gasoline on them? These questions are rhetorical.
... because life make sence only when is ethernal.Ah, so you're trying to makes sense of things. Good for you, you're in for some pleasant surprises when you get 'round to studying quantum mechanics...
Does anyone would be so reckless to claim that the macro and micro cosmos is knowable to us without the help of the Creator?-More incontrovertible proof that our species is the result of domestication. Humans were unnaturally selected over the course of 1000s of generations to forego rational thought in favor of THIS.
It seems like Captin Stumpy job ... trying to carry on a technical discussion@yaki バカ
This work Was PEER reviewednot if you're talking about your last link
If you trust the PEER review process, the laws of physics have to be changed. If the laws of physics have not changed in the last 33 years, Dr. Brown's orbit is unsupportable.
Choose one or the other. You can't have both.
You might want to check out what he said on page 313 of his book; Dark Matter, Missing Planets & New Comets … You can look up the reference if you choose to and determine if I am correct or not ...Here's a link to amazon's top critical review of your source – if after reading it you still say you'd purchase the book, what parts of the review do you disagree with? There is much wrong with your source.
What you choose to do with this information is up to you.
Bad manners are not acceptable@@yar-yar バカ
Perhaps you guys have picked a wrong time to be rudefunny... i was thinking the same thing about your posts
Ignore him at your peril.so, you want us to accept the evidence based upon the author?
Protoplasmix: no link sent.If you click anywhere on the words "amazon's top critical review" in my last post, you'll see the link is embedded. Here it is again without the embedding for your convenience: http://www.amazon...EVOEX939
Van Flandern was in on the search for a planet in the outer solar system when he was at the Naval Observatory. Ignore him at your peril.I haven't ignored him, or you. Refusing to accept pseudoscience has never been perilous.
Perhaps you guys have picked a wrong time to be rude.I haven't been rude. I even spent time checking on star flybys and solar system stability like you asked, did you not see that post? You're welcome. And it isn't rude to say again, there is much wrong with your source. If you want discuss what was said on page 313, consider paraphrasing it.
Sorry, forgot to mention that the comet swarms do come through the inner solar system, and fragments usually hit earth when they pass. Thus, this creates weather changes. The nominal comet swarm period is 3313 years, but they change a little due to Vulcan's presence in the outer solar system. There are four or five such comet swarms. Measure the interval between a sequence of three of them and you have a stable one that is twice Vulcan's period. Madam Blavadsky named this thin Vulcan and it appears that maybe Forbes thought this thing was his planer. His parameters come close to mine
Are you out of your Vulcan mind?
https://www.youtu...zsDUSNtg
Planet X is about 10 times the mass of Earth and could currently be up to 1,000 times more distant from the sun...[or] between one and five times the mass of Earth, and about 100 times more distant from the sun...There are strong observational constraints (distances are lower bounds):
A NEW SUBMM SOURCE WITHIN A FEW ARCSECONDS OF α CENTAURI: ALMA DISCOVERS THE MOST DISTANT OBJECT OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM - 8 Dec 2015A second version of the paper was uploaded to arXiv. It was subsequently withdrawn until further data is available. The abstract is still there and it has been revised from v1 to say, "However, based on only one epoch, further analysis and preferably new data are needed, before publication of an article in which the nature of the new source can be discussed." See http://arxiv.org/....02652v2
The value of the paper I uploaded twice was to point out that only the region near the ecliptic is being searched for TNOs.Wrong. You missed this from your own link:
Stumpy---you would do much better if you stopped calling everyone baka (for those of you who don't now, it is Japanese for fool) in your posts. Name-calling has no place in real scientists' lives. Please grow up, and if you can't be polite, please just stop posting.
Thanks.
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