Yes it confirms what actual scientists have been saying for a while now; that is, the deep oceans are warming and the turnover of the warm surface ocean to the deep and the rise of the cooler ocean water from the deep is what is keeping SURFACE temperatures at a lower level than predicted.
Are you paying attention Uba the Dumdum and Claudius the Misrepresenter? How many times was this exact thing suggested to both of you?
Yes it confirms what actual scientists have been saying for a while now; that is, the deep oceans are warming and the turnover of the warm surface ocean to the deep and the rise of the cooler ocean water from the deep is what is keeping SURFACE temperatures at a lower level than predicted.This just serves to prove your gullibility. You'll believe any ridiculous assertion regarding global warming, without any consideration to the physics involved.
Maggnus: You can't expect the deniers you mention to understand the differences between heat balance, heat transfer, surface temperatures, and weather. They seem to think that the deep ocean doesn't count and that if temperatures in their back yard don't monotonically increase that there is some conspiracy. They just need to tighten their tin-foil hats and keep their mouths shut.LOL. Since the global surfcae temperatures aren't cooperating, AGWites desperately seek any ridiculous justification.
You'll believe any ridiculous assertion regarding global warming, without any consideration to the physics involved.
So what would you claim is the magical source for this suppposed heating?
Do you think the sun's energy just magically passes through 700 meters of seawater, only to stop and be absorbed at this absurd depth?
We've already been over this, here:You'll believe any ridiculous assertion regarding global warming, without any consideration to the physics involved.
Really. Ok there, please do explain the physics
Magical? Supposed? Oh I don't know, maybe human generated CO2? From the sun?And how does this energy magically transport 700m deep into the ocean?
Because, you know PHYSICS says CO2 traps solar radiation causing increased heating of the planet?Idiot. That would be surface heating, not deep ocean heating where sunlight cannot reach.
Oh wait, right, you are going to explain the physics. Can't wait.You're the gullible one who believes it. Explain how it works.
This seems to be your problem.Do you think the sun's energy just magically passes through 700 meters of seawater, only to stop and be absorbed at this absurd depth?Oh, you mean like facts pass magically through your brain without leaving any imprint?
No, it doesn't pass through the upper 700 meters. Its a physics thing.Really. So how does this "physics thing" work? What's the mechanism?
You know, what you are going to explain. Might add ocean circulation in the things you are going to explain.Do you even have any idea how long it takes the deep water to circulate to the surface, and vice versa?
Can't wait for till your explanations magically appear.I'm still waiting for yours. You're the believer, explain it.
MORON!Indeed you are, but you needn't make the special effort to point it out by signing your work with this title.
And how does this energy magically transport 700m deep into the ocean?
Idiot. That would be surface heating, not deep ocean heating where sunlight cannot reach.
That's hilarious Uba Dumdum, where you provide links to all the different articles where you display your utter lack of understanding and the 1's everyone gives your usual stupid comments. Way to go. And Uba, this one is great:I agreee, it is great. So why don't you answer it?And how does this energy magically transport 700m deep into the ocean?
I even told you, you idiot! Look up Ocean Circulation. I made it nice and big so you can copy and paste it into your browser.As you obviously have no concept of how the oceans circulate, you're admitting you can't provide an explanation?
It must be weird waiting for an explanation from yourself.Idiot. That would be surface heating, not deep ocean heating where sunlight cannot reach.Seriously, how stupid can you be? Stupider than I first imagined, for sure. See comment above. Still waiting for that explanation there.
[This seems to be your problem.
Really. So how does this "physics thing" work? What's the mechanism?
Do you even have any idea how long it takes the deep water to circulate to the surface, and vice versa?Why yes, yes I do. Why might that be important Dumdum? Go slow, and think...
I'm still waiting for yours. You're the believer, explain it.
MORON!
I'm only pointing out your use of ad hominems to avoid discussing the science. Why won't you simply discuss the science and drop all the baby shit?This seems to be your problem.BAHAHAHA! And once again "no I`m not, you are!" Way to argue your case!
That's not a discussion of the mechanism, that's simply a broad and barely related title.Really. So how does this "physics thing" work? What's the mechanism?Typing really slow for your stupid ass. Its-called-global-warming!
Another non-answer.Do you even have any idea how long it takes the deep water to circulate to the surface, and vice versa?Why yes, yes I do. Why might that be important Dumdum? Go slow, and think...
Another non-answer.I'm still waiting for yours. You're the believer, explain it.Hahahaha believer, yea that's it!
I know you are, but as I said above, you needn't point it outMORON!Yes, in fact, you ARE a moron!
Aww poor Dumdum, are you having trouble keeping up again? Global warming IS the mechanism you idiot! Your stupid ass can't understand that the ocean circulation that is transporting the warm surface water to the deep and cycling up the cooler water, thus causing a reduction in the predicted surface temperatures across the globe STILL MEANS THE SYSTEM IS WARMING!! Your idiotic defence of a denialist agenda is so obvious, nearly everyone who comes to this site and reads your comments gives you a 1! Your stupid parroting of zombie arguments does more to hurt your cause (such as it is) than ANYTHING the normal science-minded people on this site say to defend the truth of human caused global warming!LOL. So you're admitting you don't understand how any of this supposedly works, but you believe it anyway.
And you are too bloody STUPID to even realize it! You are a MORON!I fully realize that you're a moron.
You'll believe any ridiculous assertion regarding global warming, without any consideration to the physics involved
Really. Ok there Dumdum, please do explain the physics.
Hey Dumdum, just to try to help you pull your addled head out of your behind, you said this:You'll believe any ridiculous assertion regarding global warming, without any consideration to the physics involved
to which I replied:Really. Ok there Dumdum, please do explain the physics.
You obliquely asserted that we (or I) were not considering the physics involved. So again Dumdum, how about you take a stab at explaining these physics you assert we are not considering.
Hey Dumdum, just to try to help you pull your addled head out of your behind, you said this:I provided multiple links to previous discussions on this topic. Are you having trouble accessing them?You'll believe any ridiculous assertion regarding global warming, without any consideration to the physics involvedto which I replied:Really. Ok there Dumdum, please do explain the physics.You obliquely asserted that we (or I) were not considering the physics involved. So again Dumdum, how about you take a stab at explaining these physics you assert we are not considering.
All of UTuba's previous attempts at defending his position using Physics have been abject failures.LOL. You wish.
He's shot his load, and missed, and now resorts to accusing his audience of being to blame for his shortcomings.LOL. I see it still hurts.
That's a great argument Dumdum; no I'm not, you are.I'm pleased to see that it is at a level you can understand.
Wow. Way to state the case for the idiocy of most of those who continue to deny the truth of global warming. You're a poster child for conspiracist denialism. The Heartland foundation is probably having heart palpitations as they read your claptrap.Really? You think they read me? That's cool.
Thanks Dumdum, while you are too stupid to realize it, you actually make my case.You are a case, alright.
UTuba lacks the humour to be entertaining, the knowledge to be informative, and has all the charm and attraction of a deceased rat which suffered from leprosy and incontinence.
I hope they suspend you and the other main vitriol spreader here as well.You're speaking about yourself, right? I think I'll be contacting the moderators directly as well.
All of UTuba's previous attempts at defending his position using Physics have been abject failures.LOL. You wish.He's shot his load, and missed, and now resorts to accusing his audience of being to blame for his shortcomings.LOL. I see it still hurts.
I'm sorry I publicly proved you wrong so many times, but you really shouldn't play the authority when you haven't the skills.
UTuba lacks the humour to be entertaining, the knowledge to be informative, and has all the charm and attraction of a deceased rat which suffered from leprosy and incontinence.
I am reporting all these comments of yours that constitute nothing but personal insults and slurs, which is pretty much 100% of them. Eventually I will contact the moderators directly. I hope they suspend you and the other main vitriol spreader here as well.
Don't worry. You can just change your sig slightly like your twin does and post as usual. Maybe "deepersand" or "ampersand" or "quicksand".
But we'll know the moderators have admonished you for your reprehensible comments if we see your name change.
Pure conjecture disguised as AGW "science".
Let's play hide.
First it was hide the cooling.
Now, it's where is the non-existent warming hiding.
Through a reanalysis of global ocean heat content measurements
Not magic. Really, open a fridge and it doesn't all warm instantly. There are already patterns of circulation.
Oh wait - sorry, I was trying to make a rational analogy. My mistake.
This would be the line for vitriol laced invective spewing to AVOID rational measured conversation.
Through a reanalysis of global ocean heat content measurements
So, from 2004 the oceans conspired to move all its hot surface water to below 700 meters. Now that is some AGW Alarmist magic...er...excuse me "science".
AGW Alarmist Dictionary:
reanalysis - to doctor and/or fabricate data to propagate the AGW Alarmist agenda.
Errmmm... you been standing with your head in that open fridge door, too long
Through a reanalysis of global ocean heat content measurements
So, from 2004 the oceans conspired to move all its hot surface water to below 700 meters. Now that is some AGW Alarmist magic...er...excuse me "science".
AGW Alarmist Dictionary:
reanalysis - to doctor and/or fabricate data to propagate the AGW Alarmist agenda.
You lack the humour to be entertaining, the knowledge to be informative, and have all the charm and attraction of a deceased rat which suffered from leprosy and incontinence.Errmmm... you been standing with your head in that open fridge door, too long
You've been without a head for far too long.
Through a reanalysis of global ocean heat content measurements
So, from 2004 the oceans conspired to move all its hot surface water to below 700 meters. Now that is some AGW Alarmist magic...er...excuse me "science".
AGW Alarmist Dictionary:
reanalysis - to doctor and/or fabricate data to propagate the AGW Alarmist agenda.
You lack the humour to be entertaining, the knowledge to be informative, and have all the charm and attraction of a deceased rat which suffered from leprosy and incontinence.Errmmm... you been standing with your head in that open fridge door, too long
You've been without a head for far too long.
Yet I'm more intelligent than an ignorant turd like you.
Through a reanalysis of global ocean heat content measurements
So, from 2004 the oceans conspired to move all its hot surface water to below 700 meters. Now that is some AGW Alarmist magic...er...excuse me "science".
AGW Alarmist Dictionary:
reanalysis - to doctor and/or fabricate data to propagate the AGW Alarmist agenda.
You lack the humour to be entertaining, the knowledge to be informative, and have all the charm and attraction of a deceased rat which suffered from leprosy and incontinence.Errmmm... you been standing with your head in that open fridge door, too long
You've been without a head for far too long.
Yet I'm more intelligent than an ignorant turd like you.
That's funny, coming from one who does nothing but wallow in fecal matter.
Not magic. Really, open a fridge and it doesn't all warm instantly. There are already patterns of circulation.
Oh wait - sorry, I was trying to make a rational analogy. My mistake.
This would be the line for vitriol laced invective spewing to AVOID rational measured conversation.
Errmmm... you been standing with your head in that open fridge door, too long.
Antigorical: You seem to think that the analogy GMR used was wrong. He did go to the trouble of pointing out that we can see convection in something as familiar as a refrigerator and he pointed out that there are convection currents and eddies of all sizes and extents in the oceans that are constantly mixing them. Can you please explain why you think the heat transfer concept of convection is wrong and does not mix the energy in the oceans? Thank you in advance for your explanation. I am always interested in learning more.
The authors show that though the upper ocean waters, from the surface to 700 meters (2,300 feet) depth, showed no warming from 2004 to 2008, the waters from 700 to 2000 meters (2,300 to 6,500 feet) were warming at an unprecedented rate.
"Only, because I see you need a friend." - Anti-Gore-Tard
It is amusing to see the Anti-Gore-Tard admit that he eats dung.
Brain Cancer can be funny at times.
Well TardieBoy, if all the heat in the upper 700 m of ocean were transported below, the upper 700 m would immediately freeze solid.
"Then perhaps you can explain how this convection mechanism could transfer all this heat to the deep ocean while leaving none in the top 700 meters." - Anti-Gore-Tard
So we know your supposition is just pure scientific illiteracy.
Tarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd.
"Wow, there is no limit to your stupidity." - Anti-Gore-Tard
Well TardieBoy, if all the heat in the upper 700 m of ocean were transported below, the upper 700 m would immediately freeze solid.
So we know your supposition is just pure scientific illiteracy...
Tarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd.
Which heat are you referring to Anti-Gore-Tard? Are you referring to the heat that reaches the ocean from the sun or the heat which reaches the ocean from the sun.
It occurrs to me that you are going to have some difficulty differentiating between the two.
Which heat are you referring to Anti-Gore-Tard? Are you referring to the heat that reaches the ocean from the sun or the heat which reaches the ocean from the sun.
It occurrs to me that you are going to have some difficulty differentiating between the two.
I have no difficulty differentiating a turd from you. A turd has intelligence.
@thermodynamics
Thank you. That was a good regurgitation of the physics of heat transfer from your textbooks.
Perhaps if you read the published paper and took a gander at the link below, you'll realize why this is pure conjecture.
http://www.cato.o...vel-rise
Well TardieBoy, if all the heat in the upper 700 m of ocean were transported below, the upper 700 m would immediately freeze solid.
"Then perhaps you can explain how this convection mechanism could transfer all this heat to the deep ocean while leaving none in the top 700 meters." - Anti-Gore-Tard
So we know your supposition is just pure scientific illiteracy.
Tarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd.
Wow, there is no limit to your stupidity. I know it's difficult for you, but first try reading, then comprehending and then remember:
Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt
I know most people do not understand the numbers in this particular part of the debate, but the Oceans are NOT absorbing a great amount of heat.
It is just a tiny, tiny amount and it is only one-third of that which has been predicted and it cannot explain where all the GHG forcing is going (and up to 80% of the expected energy from that is missing).
I understand this latest explanation of the warming hiatus is popular now, but it actually indicates the Earth is just not going to warm up as the forecasts predicted.
I know most people do not understand the numbers in this particular part of the debate, but the Oceans are NOT absorbing a great amount of heat.
It is just a tiny, tiny amount and it is only one-third of that which has been predicted and it cannot explain where all the GHG forcing is going (and up to 80% of the expected energy from that is missing).
I understand this latest explanation of the warming hiatus is popular now, but it actually indicates the Earth is just not going to warm up as the forecasts predicted.
I presume, someone already knows about my theory of global warming induced with decay (and possibly the fusion) of radioactive elements (potassium) inside of Earth crust and marine water, acellerated with low energy neutrinos from cloud of dark matter penetrating the solar system at the galactic plane.
VENDItardE
Jul 2, 2013