Huh, somewhat rhetorical... glacial melt caused local cooling in the Pacific North West. If we hit a tipping point, and enough ice melts to affect the globe, will we see the Global Temperature decrease, yet... the causation of Global "Warming" continue?
We should start instituting carbon capture. It's an economical solution world wide.
We should start instituting carbon capture. It's an economical solution world wide.
@Deepsand-you're absolutely right! If I break an ice cube up it certainly does not cool my drink (faster). In fact it warms it up, I am surprised I never noticed this effect before. And the feedback effect, gosh, I guess I never realized water is the most dense at 4 C and... thanks for playing.
melting requires energy.
I am not avoiding, I am missing completely. Please explain more specifically, what is the feedback origin?[/quote]
Already laid out in detail.If you mean albedo at the poles-it is negligible...
http://www.elic.u...de6.html
Your own citation says otherwise."Transfer..." I will have to stand on a principle that applies to waste and waste heat: "There is no 'away' to 'through to'..."
Sophistry.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
My facts are these, the Earth is not a closed system. It receives heat from the Sun and from burning of fossil fuels. The melting I am referring to is the "un-naturally" rapid melting of our poles, clearly caused by a change to the environment, clearly not from the annual "transfer" I think you mean(?).
Agreed. However, we have seen a great deal of climatic cooling due to melting (see Pacific Northwest temp in the 1990's), and do every year seasonally.
Do you know the magnitudes/trade-offs?
And, it is unfair to ask, I know, suggest differences between the world w/o GW vs a world as it is?
That is a weather change, not one of climate.
And, it is unfair to ask, I know, suggest differences between the world w/o GW vs a world as it is?...
More temperate average temperatures and less volatile weather.
That is a weather change, not one of climate.
I was referring to climate, it changed. It is still "weird," it entered into a partial, if false, recovery, but not like the '90s weird.
...trade-offs albeito vs effluence... We actually already answered the question in our discussion.
And, it is unfair to ask, I know, suggest differences between the world w/o GW vs a world as it is?...Funny, you disagreed with this on the other topic.
More temperate average temperatures and less volatile weather.
ahaveland
Feb 16, 2013http://thinkprogr...llapsed/